Milk Thistle, Red Rice Yeast, CoQ10, Liver function

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Milk Thistle, Red Rice Yeast, CoQ10, Liver function

Postby indyscowboy » Sat Dec 15, 2007 1:11 pm

I'm 56 and about 6 months ago my Dr switched me to Vytorim from Zetia for cholesteral. With Vytorin blood test are performed every 3 months for liver function. Right away my liver function was down and I didn't feel right. The Dr kept me on Vytorin and 5 weeks later we had another blood test showing my liver function down even farther. I was drinking 2 to 4 beers almost every night and he blamed it on that. He told me to keep taking the Vytorin, stop drinking, and referred me to a liver specialist. I figured it was time for me to take things into my own hands because I didn't like the way things were going. I did a lot of research, threw the Vytorin in the trash, stopped drinking, didn't see the specialist, starting watching what I ate, exercised, and started taking Milk Thistle and CoQ10 for liver function, and Red Rice Yeast for cholesteral. I also took Omega 3 and flaxseed oil. I did that for six weeks and told my Dr what I had done and was ready for a blood test. I haven't had good cholesteral for years but it was perfect along with my liver function. I don't know if this will work for everyone but it did for me and I'm very excited. I can't wait to talk to the Dr. personally to see what he says.

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Postby cjbrooksjc » Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:33 pm

Indy: Many on this forum will tell you: Red Yeast Rice IS A STATIN, and you run the risk of having the same symptoms arise while taking it. It is less effective, and therefore less troublesome than the manufactured (Vytorin, Lipitor, Zocor,etc.) forms, but is IS a Statin. I advise you to be watchful! That warning notwithstanding, congratulations on your improvement, and I hope it continues.

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Postby indyscowboy » Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:48 pm

I just got on this board today and I'm already learning. A gentlemen emailed me and said the same thing. He said to try Sytrinol or Astaxanthin. I haven't got to research them yet. This board is going to be very helpful.
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Postby xrn » Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:28 am

Indy my total cholesterol is standing at 8.5 and probably has done for all od my life... I am almost 60. I wont be taking anything to lower my cholesterol, from any source prescribed or otherwise. Evolution over the millenia has not provided humans with a means to artificially lower their cholesterol.

Why not? It is essential to cell wall integrity. It is necessary to the production of myelin (which is the protective covering that surrounds every nerve fibre) and demyelination of nerves leads to unthinkable consequences. All of the medical literature that examines cholesterol levels and death, shows that lower cholesterol values lead to earlier death.

We all die and no person can escape that fact. I would rather die from a massive heart attack, instantly, than have 20 years of a pain-filled existence. Maybe that is just me but life at any price is not what I want. I want to enjoy the rest of my life being able to function adequately.

Lowering cholesterol is going to do what for you?

Kind regards,
Jeff (aka xrn)
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Postby adec » Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:14 pm

Cholesterol numbers are only as good as their interpretation. Lowering your total cholesterol level (below 200) and LDL (below 140) will do absolutely nothing toward decreasing mortality, if anything, it increases your risk of cancer... among other diseases and disorders.

Yet by lowering oxidized LDL, you give yourself a great start towards average good heath. More importantly, increasing your HDL and overall lipoprotein particle size strongly correlates with increased longevity and cognitive function.

Statins actually decrease both HDL and LDL particle size, similar to the effect of trans-fats. The only benefit provided by statins is as a fairly mild anti-oxidant, seemingly overshadowed by many other more safe and effective anti-oxidants.
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Postby cjbrooksjc » Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:51 pm

Indy: Here's a short you-tube film on Bad Cholesterol. It may be helpful to you. *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMgHecqxffo Remove the * before you link to the site.

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